Dodge the Deer 5k Race Recap 6/23/19

I have only run three trail races. My first was a half marathon — go big or go home, right? Dodge the Deer, a very family-oriented day  out at a local park with our local running group, Albany Running Exchange, includes a couple of kiddy races and a trail 5k and has been on my radar a long time.

Historically it’s been in April, which historically is not-so-great weather in these parts. I am a fair weather trail runner, even if my trail half was cool, rainy, and muddy (you can read about it here).

However, Sunday was a gorgeous day. There is also a cookout/potluck following the race. I tried to convince a few friends to go, but didn’t have any luck. Other friends that might have gone were out of town. So I headed out by myself — the first time in a long time that I went to a race without knowing that someone I knew would also be there.

I would have gotten the race socks (from past years) if they had had my size; you could choose one thing from any of these — I like that!

Packet Pickup
If I’d registered before it closed online, I could have saved $5, oh well. I registered day of, which meant getting there really early — like an hour and a half before the race. The race is in a nice park, though, and it was a beautiful day. Getting there so early meant I got parking close to the activities and could go back and forth multiple times.

I was surprised I could pay with a credit card; I’d expected to have to pay cash. I was also surprised that despite day-of registration, I was still able to pick out one piece of swag from the variety they had (mostly from old races). I wanted to get the race socks, but they were only L & XL — so I got ARE socks (the running group that puts this race on) instead.

The Famous Dodge the Deer — even being very BOTP I was able to outrun him

I went back & forth to the real bathrooms a bunch of times (because I was there so early and so well hydrated). I also sat in the shade on a picnic bench listening to “Marathon Woman”, our running group’s next book club (I use that term loosely) pick.

I chatted with a couple with their dog there, a woman who had driven in 2 hours from MA to run this race — she’s the one I asked to take my photo before the race — and someone I recognized from our Wed night group runs.

It wasn’t super technical, but there were still plenty of roots out there! And shade, thankfully.

My Race Plan
Have fun. Stay uninjured. That’s all she wrote. Happy to say I met my goals. Despite the fact that my Garmin and the official race results tallied almost perfectly, the mile splits were way off. Yes, your results included your mile splits — a nice touch. So I’m reporting them with O for Official time and G for my Garmin time.

So how’d that work for me?

  1. Mile 1: 11:40 O/11:16 G. Very weird. There’s no mat to cross, but there is a Start sign and a line on the path. Did I start my watch too early? Too late? Just weird. The first mile felt pretty good.
  2. Mile 2: 11:06 O/11:33 G. I was definitely surprised by my time the first mile. I’m usually pretty darn slow on trails. Despite the nice shady paths, I was already feeling tired!
  3. Mile 3: 12:45 O/12:13 G. I am still running without walk breaks, except for a short one at the end of each mile to drink water (which I definitely needed with the 10 am start). I thought to myself “don’t walk in the middle of this mile” but I think you can guess what happened.
  4. Last .14: 9:49 G. I was, quite literally, neck and neck with this older woman coming into the finish chute. Which helped me to push faster. She was 72, it turned out, and I didn’t want her beating me! We crossed at the same exact time.

36:26 — Official Time (36:25 Garmin)
11:44 — Average Pace (11:37 Garmin)
4 out of 7? in my AG
196 out of 236 runners

I’ve run one trail half (which was considerably slower and also much more difficult), and one other trail 5k a couple of years ago. And that one was 42:25. 6 minutes slower!

I don’t really remember if the course at my first trail 5k was that much tougher, but I don’t think it was. It was even a cooler day, I remember that distinctly! I had run a long run (maybe 9 miles?) the day before. I had no idea what that finish time was going into this race, so a much faster finish time was a pleasant surprise.

I wasn’t at all surprised to find myself so far to the BOTP, but was pleasantly surprised to find myself in the middle of the pack for my age group. I think there was about 3 minutes between me and the woman who placed third, so even without that extra walk break the last mile I don’t think I would have placed. No problem, I was extremely surprised to see I came in fourth — when I saw that I actually wondered if there were only four women in my AG, LOL!

Actually, the person who won my AG had a 23:46 time — there are some speedy older trail runners out there!

Even with my Cool It Skirt and towel, and the shade, it was a hot race!

The weather & dressing
A late 10 am start and temps already hovering around 70, it was a hot one even with all the shade. Good practice for my Fourth of July race, which will most likely have similar conditions (but start a little earlier).

There just has to be a story behind this costume, although I never got it. Apparently he is the Race Director’s father.

I wore my Cool It Skirt and Racecation Tank from Skirt Sports. I also wore my cooling scarf, which this time I dosed more thoroughly with water beforehand (last race I didn’t really get it wet enough).

Despite the claims of a very non-technical trail, I  wore my Saucony Peregrines and I’m glad I did. I am willing to bet you that my finish time would have been slower had I worn my regular running shoes.

Was the race well run?
This is such a great family-friendly event. Low key as most trail races are. Races for the kids. I had fun cheering them on as I was sitting on the picnic table before my race! Some of the kids were seriously speedy, too, but they were all so cute.

I had never been to this park but had no trouble finding the race. There was no one directing parking, but it seemed to work out okay. There are real bathrooms (which I always love). Registration was easy, I was happy I could use a credit card, results were posted quickly, there was a nice spread afterwards — and a cookout I didn’t stay for.

The one bone I have to pick is with the description of the trails:

The Dodge the Deer 5K (and Kids Races) are on the safest and most enjoyable trails around. It’s basically an unpaved road with easy footing and no hills. If you think of rocks, roots, and other gnarly things when you think of trail running – you’re thinking of places that aren’t Schodack Island State Park. 🙂

Okay, I guess they weren’t that technical because normally my trail running pace is a lot slower. Still, there were plenty of roots and while it wasn’t super hilly, it definitely wasn’t completely flat either — I guess it was flat as trail races go. I wasn’t the only person who thought this.

One last bone: I don’t really think there’s anything they can do about this, but several people were complaining that there were no water stops. Where would you have put them? I always carry water with me, and I’d even remembered to freeze half the night before so I had cool water the whole race. It might be nice to mention on the Website that there will be no water available during the race, though.

Would I run this race again? If the weather is nice, I absolutely would.


Linking up with Zenaida Arroyo and Kim @ Kookyrunner

This week I am also joining up with Running on Happy, Suzlyfe, Crazy Running Girl, and Coach Debbie Runs each week for the Coaches’ Corner linkup


25 thoughts on “Dodge the Deer 5k Race Recap 6/23/19

  1. Good job on your pace.

    I would have been upset at no water stops on a hot day. I don’t carry water but if it was shady probably ok. On Saturday the first water stop was at almost 3 miles anyway.

    ARE races like H2H are usually well organized. Trail races don’t tempt me at all but I would love to run at this park. Too bad I’m out of town this week.

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  2. Sounds like a good race overall. That’s great that the trail was shaded given the late start. And it makes sense about the trail being to narrow for water stops but I can also see that being a surprise to people who aren’t familiar with the trail. It would be good to make sure that’s announced on the website or somewhere so people can be prepared.

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    1. I probably would not have been terribly happy if I hadn’t had water with me, but I almost always do (unless I forget it).

      So many people don’t think you need water for a such a short race — I don’t understand that!

      I looked to see if it was announced on the Website, but if it was, I missed it.


  3. Good job on your pace and to finish in the middle of your a.g.
    That is a very beautiful place for a trail, I can understand that you’d like to repeat this experience.
    I don’t mind if I don’t find a water stop but only if the race is short and not under the hot sun.
    Beautiful photos.

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  4. Nice job on the trail race, Judy! It sounds like a wonderful race. Not every trail race has to include scrambling up cliffs and stream crossings. Sometimes it’s nice to have a flatter trail with few (or no) roots and rocks. This sounds like my kind of race. I don’t think a water stop is necessary for a 5K either.

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  5. Sounds like a fun race! One thing I noticed , in the few trail races I’ve done, is that it always seems really humid. Granted, these all have happened in the summer months, but I think all the trees and brush keep the air from “circulating” much…all the humidity kind of gets trapped in there (?). Anyways, great job! That’s a fantastic finish time 😉

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    1. Some people said they felt it was humid, but I really didn’t think it was at all. Living in TX forever skewed what I think of as humid!

      I was grateful that it wasn’t super buggy. Although apparently someone found a tick on herself as she crossed the finish line . . .


  6. Nice work Judy! I’ve run maybe 10 or so trail races and have yet to see a water station for the reasons you describe. How would they ever drag water into the trails? It’s the nature of the beast.

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  7. Ok, my question is do you need a water station on a 5k? Congrats on a well run race! Isn’t it nice to move up in the standings?

    PS You know Marathon Woman is one of my all time favorite running books, right?

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    1. I am a thirsty runner. I like water, even for a 5k (especially a warm one) — my MO is to take some water on my walk break each mile. However, I carry my own. And don’t forget, there are people out there for over 40 minutes — some way over 40 minutes!

      As to placing, I seriously though I wouldn’t even be in the “running”. My times haven’t really changed a whole lot, as everyone says, it’s a matter of who shows up. The woman I chatted with from our wed night group is a new runner – but she’s fast! And older than me (good thing she wasn’t in my AG that way, LOL).


  8. Lovely, this looks so pretty and hooray Saucony Peregrines – I wore mine on the hard chalk on Sunday because it was quite rutted and you were on a slope a lot of the time and the rubberiness of them made me feel really comfortable. I’d have enjoyed this as a first trail race a lot more than doing 10 technical miles, myself. And a great pace, maybe because you’ve done worse surfaces in the past so could relax here.

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    1. My first trail half was a half. It was a lot more difficult (yet billed as beginner-friendly). I guess it was, no stream crossings, but it wasn’t easy!

      I got lucky, in a way, I trained by myself in April for it — our trails aren’t always open by that point.

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  9. I think it’s weird (and potentially dangerous) not to have water stations on the course on a hot day. I agree, they should at least let people know ahead of time. Or offer water bottles for people to carry for the race.

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    1. Narrow trails. Really, there is just no where one could place an aid station. There were a variety of beverages available before/ after, but I do think that there should be a mention of it on the Website.


  10. I know you mentioned there was no place for the water stations but I would have been one to complain about it. I know it is “only” but I always drink water in a race. So weird that running here I never take water with me when running less than 5 miles.

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    1. I was told emphatically when we did that water stop a few weeks ago that there’s really no need to have one for a 5k. But I’m with you — Hot or cold, but more so in the heat, I want to drink some liquids.

      Not to mention the slower runners (myself included ) are out there for longer times. If I could run a 5k in 20 min maybe I wouldn’t care. 🙂

      No matter the season or the weather, I always have water with me (unless I forget, which is rare).

      Sometimes it actually drives what I wear, as in how many pockets do I have, how many water bottles can I shove in said pockets.

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